Ahhhh! Stay away from my Tengu!

Experience shows this isn't true. Maybe for solo exploration? maybe in Null sec? Maybe for most PVE? Not seeing it in gang PVP for sure.

IF you have achieved bittervet nirvana with all5 on all T2 subcaps, then sure. For everyone else, there are (or could be) T3s. If each T3 hull had eight possible fits, and each of those fits can do what a particular T2 ship can do at 90% of the performance level of the equivalent T2 hull, then that is a valid balance.

If you only want to max out one role, then the T2 hull is the obvious choice. It will do the job better and probably take about as long or not much longer to train. If you want to do two or three or eight things reasonably well, then the T3 is attractive because you can get 9/10ths of the performance for every role with 1/10th the training time.

That makes the T3 ideal for noobs in general and for any case where you want to be able to train one hull and one weapon line and do several different things on demand. Plenty of people "will bother" to fly T3s if this is the reason to fly them. People also "will bother" to fly T2s again either because they want the best performance for one role or just because they can, when they have been around long enough to join the 100m SP club.

The problem right now is that the T3 does everything better than anything else you might fly, which makes it the only choice for anyone, and makes T2s look like a total waste of SP except for the niche roles that T3s cannot fill at all. That is not balance, it's an iWin button.

Being able to use the fitting window in space, to swap sub systems or modules You happen to have in cargo would be cool.

Or something like that. Something that actually lets You facilitate on the much complimented versatility of the T3 ships.

It's quite easy:

Let's presume You have all that mods and Subsytems You want in Your cargo hold, so You can use Your hypothetical shape shifter ship to it's fullest extend.

So long as You have the posibility to refit Your ship (aka time not under fire) You can be everything at once.

You COULD have decided to just take that one configuration with You, minimizing any losses You MIGHT have suffered through volatile pod ejection.

But You didn't and so since You decided, You wanted to be a cloaky scanner to find some juicy sites, a PVE ship to harvest those sites, maybe even a ship with a hacking setup for those new and nice little hacking sites and (just in case You encounter someone you actually want to fight) a pvp setup... well You see the thing, he more stuff You carry, the more You loose when You loose, just as with everything else.

Your only advantage then will be that You can actually use all that stuff, on the fly and not just the ammo, but also that nice little deadspace mod You just found or whatever You carry with You that fits in Your ship.

I really think it could be great and really cool, if done right.

A carrier is a completely different class of ship that touches T3 Strategic Cruisers only marginally, at best. I really don't get why You bring that one up all the time.

Seems a little dumb to me...

Still seems dumb.

By Your logic I could claim that no other ship than the golem should be allowed to use T2 Torpedos because that's just what the golem specializes in and if You want to launch torpedoes, You should get a Golem.

Where is the downvote button?:O

Whats the point of a ship which is much more expensive and isnt as good as other specialized ships? Nothing
Even if you could refit it who cares maybe some % of the playerbase,and making the rest of the players these ships useless.

Right now they are only op cause they can tank a lot and blob friendly due to lame rr+very good resists and sigtanking.

oh and make every role viable , who uses tengu for jamming or rail sniping ? nobody

oh and remove rigs or make them removable ---> we can change the systems

I want
every subsystem to be useful

no skill loss

in space refitting
no rigs or removable rigs

Indeed but lets start by removing what is out of whack and see what happens:

-fix over sized modules to mach their respective category ship

-get rid of off grid links (eventually transfer those abilities to respective skill trees and then it's up to player to do it or not)

-fix the current completely OP DED shield boosters and balance them correctly with DED ARs

-balance faction DED/officer modules: all advantages and no drawback, this needs to be addressed. better fittings and no specialization skills required is way out of wack, they need either to get a higher cap consumption on activation or huge CPU/PG kicks to match their performances and thus limit fittings

Now, about Tengus: 200K EHP and 700dps at....25km I see no problem here, HAC's will eat them at this distance with as much if not more dps once they go through the balance spot, because yes they need more dps/range, smaller signature and higher mobility (not much more tank)

Notice that without touching a single point of any T3 we're already fixing about 80% of what makes them so powerful and still keep the interest on flying them.

There's only one or two roles where each T3 is good, some 1 more others one less but with my proposed changes this already removes a lot if not most of the points making them excel in various combat situations.

Of course this is not an exhaustive list, there are far more little changes needed but none directly related to the T3 hulls.
If something, with these simple proposals and after changes the other T3 subs would require huge boosts to be able to compete or become interesting with T2 counter parts without being better at their job.

Still doesn't make it right tho.

Keep talking, I understand what You're saying, it's just quite narrow minded and it makes You sound as if You were afraid Your shiny cap could become useless for some enigmatic reason. But keep talking, I don't mind.

It has already been brought up (by Commander Ted) that it is almost as, if not more, cost effective to have all the T2 counterpart ships of the T3 subsystems. Without the ability to be truly modular there is little point in calling the ship "modular" letting them refit modules and subsystems in space would be a niche role that only a T3 ship could fill.
There should be restrictions, such as:

It takes 1 minute per subsystem to refit.
All modules need to be turned back online.

Special abilities for the T3 for this would be:
A 600m^3 Subsystem and Module Bay must be loaded in a POS or Station.
A 15% reduction in the capacitor needs for putting modules online.

Yeah You obviously ignored the part were i said "certain numbers of configurations stored in the ship" and "to be activated like some kind of module, module timer etc. included".

NO. You should not have to carry all the stuff you might need in your hold. That's my entire point. The loss of the ship goes up because of it. Fit in space is not a good idea. The people who want this are the solo PVE peeps. It is and shall remain a terrible idea and you should feel terrible.

nd when T3s are given there nerf to where they are supposed to be then what? You have an overpriced novelity ship than will be outperformed by T2 (as they should be) and more expensive than a pirate faction ship but with the role quality of a navy ship.
Without a gimmic of there own they will collect dust like many ships have in the past.

Greater risk greater reward, if you bring the stuff to refit to do higher complexes you risk losing more but your potential for greater reward is higher, if they could be allowed to refit and re sub in space.

As it stands now they will be put in the area I stated before but without the ability to refit.

They won't perform 80% of one ship they perform 80% of 4 ships.
So 120mill 4 ships = 480mill * 80% = 384mill

90% is way too high and no way it could do more than 4 roles properly

So T3 ships are flexible? I thought T3 ships were supposed to be flexible but they aren't currently? You mean one hull can be fit out several different, viable ways? Well now I am confused... all the 'nerf T3' ships comments because the big draw of T3 ships is supposed to be they are flexible. Either they are flexible or they aren't. Which is it? ;)